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Finally got some answers.

Went to the Transit Tour event here in Cleveland (actually Mentor) yesterday and finally got to look at some wagons.
The first two rows of seats in the back are NOT easy to remove. They recommend that if you have to take them out to have the dealer do it. Looks like you have to get under the van to get to the bolts to remove the seats. There are hard plastic "boots" over the base brackets where they go into the floor and stop you from reaching the top of the seat bolts. I could not see any way to get them off separately. Looks like you have to take the seats out first to get the boots off. Then you will have the "holes" in the floor where the seat brackets go.
Now if you order any size wagon with additional seats (10, 12, or 15 pass.) then all those seats extra rows have a quick release latch at each seat base. I asked three different Ford reps why they did it like that and not a one could give me a straight answer. I let each of them know how STUPID I thought this two different kinds of seats was.
One other thing to note is that under both those rows of "permanent" seats there are heater vents in the floor. The rear A/C vents are in the headliner.
Now one thing that two of the reps tried to point me to is something called a "Builders Prep Package" that they said was a wagon without the seats. However when I got home and looked at the brochure that they gave me it says the the builders prep package also removes the rear floor covering (and a couple of other things). So does this mean that you don't get the rear heat vents with this package?

I'm starting to lean more towards another F-150.
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Now one thing that two of the reps tried to point me to is something called a "Builders Prep Package" that they said was a wagon without the seats. However when I got home and looked at the brochure that they gave me it says the the builders prep package also removes the rear floor covering (and a couple of other things). So does this mean that you don't get the rear heat vents with this package?
This is the Builders Prep Package. As I digest what it is, I' think I'll have more to say about it...

BUILDERS PREP PACKAGE (61A) (late availability)
NOTE: Package deletes rear floor covering, rear seat rails,
fixings, rear seats and constraints.
• Requires:
- Dual heavy-duty batteries (63E)
- Heavy-duty alternator (63C)
• Includes:
- Auxiliary fuse panel
- Carpeted front floor covering (XLT)
- Complete headliner
- Front license plate bracket
- Front vinyl floor covering (XL)
- Modified Vehicle Wiring System
• Radio Pack (58V)

• Upgradeable features (extra cost)
- Auxiliary Heater/AC Prep Package without rear
controls (62C)
- Passenger seat delete
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Also be interested if you can get seats and rails for a cargo. Looking at dual sliders so passengers can get in without being in the way of wheelchair lift coming in or out. Would be nice to put a sleeper sofa in the far back or a couple of reclining captains chairs. That would give passengers a place to sit.

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Now if you order any size wagon with additional seats (10, 12, or 15 pass.) then all those seats extra rows have a quick release latch at each seat base. .
Jim,

Do you mean that ALL of the rear seats in the 10, 12, or 15 passenger vans have quick release mechanisms, or just the "extra" rows (meaning fourth, and fifth rows, but not the 2nd or 3rd)? Sorry I'm just trying to fully understand this as it will have a huge impact on my purchasing decision.

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Also be interested if you can get seats and rails for a cargo. Looking at dual sliders so passengers can get in without being in the way of wheelchair lift coming in or out. Would be nice to put a sleeper sofa in the far back or a couple of reclining captains chairs. That would give passengers a place to sit.

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Jim,

Do you mean that ALL of the rear seats in the 10, 12, or 15 passenger vans have quick release mechanisms, or just the "extra" rows (meaning fourth, and fifth rows, but not the 2nd or 3rd)? Sorry I'm just trying to fully understand this as it will have a huge impact on my purchasing decision.

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Just the "extra" rows. The 2nd and 3rd are always bolted down "permanently".
That's why I told the Ford rep that it was stupid to have two different kinds of seats.
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That bolting down of the seats. Would cause me NOT to buy a Transit. I took my seats out often to haul stuff.

I'm a van guy.
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Wow, Ford just lost a customer. Too bad for them. Through bolted seats has got to be the stupidest engineering decision I've ever heard of in a van. If I can't take the seats out, the van does me zero good for any purpose BUT people hauling. I can't even fathom what the benefit of this design is.

Guess I'm headed to Nissan.
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...I can't even fathom what the benefit of this design is...
Tamper proof for commercial people movers? A stretch perhaps, but they may be highly focused on the fleet market.

Edit: Just saw where some of the rows come out. Now it just looks dumb.

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Bolted down seats (except extra rows) for the wagon?!? There must be some mistake. Surely they all would be quick release. I don't think something like that would make it out of a 1st level prototype. I might could deal with a few bolts but not in the way you described (take to the dealer). Could you imagine the market loss by such a move? Say it ain't so Ford.
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