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My XLT 8-passenger Wagon has power leather seats, the inverter, two 12v cig. plugs up front, plus one more 12v plug behind the rear bench seat on the right, where it would have been usable for the last bench seat (which I don't have), in my larger cargo area. These 12v power points are rated for 180 watts DC per the owners manual. Do they make 12v chargers for cordless drill batteries?

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Yes onetwo, I saw that rear powerpoint option....I just don't know if it would be in a convenient place to use after I do all of my interior upfitting...I am planning on paneling all the walls with wood for future accessories, e-tracts, and whatever else I want to add. I see that Samlex makes a small pure sine wave inverter that supposedly works off of the cigar lighter type powerport....it's a 350w inverter...I would like to know if anyone has one of these, and that it works ok...and doesn't overload the small powerpoint wiring.

Here is a link to the Samlex site...I'm looking at the SSW-350-12A

http://www.samlexamerica.com/product...l.aspx?pid=107
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Do they make 12v chargers for cordless drill batteries?
Absolutely they do! at least Dewalt does...

http://www.jccayer.com/Dewalt-DCB119...Charger/p/2873


But I'd rather not buy an additional charger and use my standard 110v one and plug it into the Transits inverter when needed.

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This is the inverter I was actually considering....it runs off of the powerpoint. Anyone know anything about how these work?

http://www.batterystuff.com/inverter...T-30S-12A.html
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The problem with using the power points is they are only have 12 volt power for 30 minutes after engine is turned off. You can turn them back on for another 30 minutes by opening the cab doors or locking and unlocking the van with the key fob.

Do not know if Ford inverter also turns off after 30 minutes. Someone here can reply with that info.

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Yes Orton...that is the downside to the cigar type powerpoints. How about those 60 amp fused powerpoint at the driver's seat? Are they hot all the time...or only when the ignition is on? I believe Longboard said that his factory installed inverter only works when the vehicle is running. I think my best bet is to hard wire my inverter directly to my batter(y/ies), or one of those 60 amp powerpoints at the driver's seat pedestal.
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Yes Orton...that is the downside to the cigar type powerpoints. How about those 60 amp fused powerpoint at the driver's seat? Are they hot all the time...or only when the ignition is on? I believe Longboard said that his factory installed inverter only works when the vehicle is running. I think my best bet is to hard wire my inverter directly to my batter(y/ies), or one of those 60 amp powerpoints at the driver's seat pedestal.
I have not tested the 60 amp terminals at the base of the drivers seat to see if they also controlled by the 30 minute timer. Maybe someone here knows that answer.

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The problem with using the power points is they are only have 12 volt power for 30 minutes after engine is turned off. You can turn them back on for another 30 minutes by opening the cab doors or locking and unlocking the van with the key fob.

Do not know if Ford inverter also turns off after 30 minutes. Someone here can reply with that info.
Aside from the timing issue, the limited current available at the 110v inverter (150 watts AC) and the 12v power points (180 watts DC), render them both almost useless for anything other than very minor uses IMO. An immersion heater for water in a ceramic mug comes to mind. Also the owners manual lists uses excluded for the 110v inverter:

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/745...age=106#manual

HarleyHauler, the tech specs. for your 12v 350 watt inverter says it comes with #12 AWG wires with clamps to attach directly to the battery.

The BEMM instructions I posted earlier for adding a third battery ["E" in the illustration linked], and orton's 3 60 amp. terminals seem like the only ways of handling the various chargers and larger inverters being discussed IMO.

Let's turn this around -- what devices require less than 150 watts AC, or less than 180 watts DC, which might be useful in a vehicle, and don't run afoul of the owner's manual 110v exclusions? A cell phone charger maybe? An immersion heater? What else? onetwo's DeWalt charger? I guess anything that is supplied with a plug to fit into a cigarette lighter . . .

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One comment about modified sine wave invertors- while they may work many things I have found that something like a battery charger for my Ryobi tools, takes WAY longer to charge a tool battery to full charge than it does powering the same charger on clean power.
I experimented with MSW invertors running a microwave oven and found the same thing- it takes double or more the time for the same heating power.
I am fond of the Morningstar 300 watt pure sine invertor- I have one installed in my travel trailer to run the TV and my CPAP. One thing I like about is it's massive heat sink so no fan to listen to.
I also have a 1000 watt pure sine Sunforce- I think they may be out of business now- which is fine by me as my first one had an issue during the warranty period and they managed to finally replace it 3 months after I sent it to them. It took frequent complaints to get it back even then.
The Sunforce they sent as a replacement will probably be going in the van as I happen to already own it.

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We are doing a fairly complete camper conversion. We are going to be using the following inverter but it will be connected to house batteries.

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