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High Top Long or High Top Extended

Hello all. I need some opinions. I'm was going back and forth between the Sprinter and the Transit and have pretty easily decided I'm ready to order the Transit. I have a good idea on what options I want but I'm struggling to decide between the High Top Long or High Top Long Extended. If I calculate right the Long is just under 20' and the Extended just under 22'. What a difference 2' can make. I've driven the Long but need to test the Extended to see how it handles. Here's my dilemma. I"m seriously considering living in this full time. I have a unique work situation. I'm Flight Attendant and I'm gone anywhere from 4 to 6 days a week. I feel like I'm throwing money away because I am barely ever home. I can park my rig at any airport in the country and just fly into Phoenix to go to work. The dilemma with length is this. I love the Regular Long version because it fits into literally any parking spot. Super easy to drive. But it's a big sacrifice of space for that convenience. With the Long Extended Van that two extra feet might make the difference between putting in a nice wet bath and having enough storage. But the sacrifice with the Extended is that it might be difficult to park. This is going to be my daily driver as well. Do I really want to drive a monstrously long van around all day. Heres an idea of what I would like to fit into the van so you have an idea if the regular van will fit it all.

Raised bed in back (with a ton of storage underneath for mtn bike and misc gear). I don't need a Queen size bed. Think a full size running across the back. I could even go smaller but not much smaller. I could take a memory foam mattress a cut it to fit any size I need.

Galley kitchen with sink and propane cook top and small DC fridge

Storage for clothes (I'll be living in it)

I really want a decent shower w/ toilet. I'm seriously considering the Natures Head composting toilet to eliminate the black tank. Draw back is that thing looks pretty big and will eat up space.

Small seating area. Not much space needed but it would be nice.

Bonus wish list: I really have my eye on the Dickinson marine propane heater. I haven't seen anyone talk about this but I can see in climates where it's somewhat cold (not under freezing) that this thing would be awesome. Sips propane and barely useless any amps for the small fan.

For power I want to go all solar. Either two or four 6V golf cart batteries in a sealed and vented box is what I'm thinking for now. I'll also need space for charge controller and electrical distribution box.

Can it fit in the Extended version let alone squeezing it into the regular long version of the van.
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Hello all. I need some opinions. I'm was going back and forth between the Sprinter and the Transit and have pretty easily decided I'm ready to order the Transit. I have a good idea on what options I want but I'm struggling to decide between the High Top Long or High Top Long Extended. If I calculate right the Long is just under 20' and the Extended just under 22'. What a difference 2' can make. I've driven the Long but need to test the Extended to see how it handles. Here's my dilemma. I"m seriously considering living in this full time. I have a unique work situation. I'm Flight Attendant and I'm gone anywhere from 4 to 6 days a week. I feel like I'm throwing money away because I am barely ever home. I can park my rig at any airport in the country and just fly into Phoenix to go to work. The dilemma with length is this. I love the Regular Long version because it fits into literally any parking spot. Super easy to drive. But it's a big sacrifice of space for that convenience. With the Long Extended Van that two extra feet might make the difference between putting in a nice wet bath and having enough storage. But the sacrifice with the Extended is that it might be difficult to park. This is going to be my daily driver as well. Do I really want to drive a monstrously long van around all day. Heres an idea of what I would like to fit into the van so you have an idea if the regular van will fit it all.

Raised bed in back (with a ton of storage underneath for mtn bike and misc gear). I don't need a Queen size bed. Think a full size running across the back. I could even go smaller but not much smaller. I could take a memory foam mattress a cut it to fit any size I need.

Galley kitchen with sink and propane cook top and small DC fridge

Storage for clothes (I'll be living in it)

I really want a decent shower w/ toilet. I'm seriously considering the Natures Head composting toilet to eliminate the black tank. Draw back is that thing looks pretty big and will eat up space.

Small seating area. Not much space needed but it would be nice.

Bonus wish list: I really have my eye on the Dickinson marine propane heater. I haven't seen anyone talk about this but I can see in climates where it's somewhat cold (not under freezing) that this thing would be awesome. Sips propane and barely useless any amps for the small fan.

For power I want to go all solar. Either two or four 6V golf cart batteries in a sealed and vented box is what I'm thinking for now. I'll also need space for charge controller and electrical distribution box.

Can it fit in the Extended version let alone squeezing it into the regular long version of the van.
How tall are you? Will you be able to sleep across the van? A Transit can be built with a 74" bed length across the van. If you are taller than 5'-10" you may be forced to buy the extended version which will impact its use as a daily driver. Conversions are all about compromise and choices.

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A full size mattress (54x75") will fit with a little less than 2 inches to spare in a window van, at the bottom of the windows. Don't know if the non-window van is the same, but it must be pretty close.
Parking isn't super hard with the extended, but it is longer than the average space. If you live in an area where everyone drives pick-up's, you'll be fine. One nice feature of the extended Transit is that it is still a pretty short wheelbase, so backing it up and maneuvering in a parking lot is super easy with the aid of the excellent mirrors and back up camera.
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I'm exactly 5'10'' so I think I should be ok sleeping across the back. If I do a full size across do you think it would give me enough room for my wish list. The wet bath is kinda a big deal to me. I stay in hotels 3 to 4 nights a week so plenty of time for a long luxurious shower. But in the van I want to have the ability to take a quick Navy shower and get cleaned up. And I don't want to always be on the look out for a McDonalds bathroom. I want to be comfortable. I surely understand that it's always a sacrifice. All things considered I am leaning towards the Regular long but am envious of the Extended long version. But it might be a beast to drive everyday and park.
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Deadwood, your story hits close to home. I'm an airline pilot and spent many a night in the employee parking lots sleeping in my Econoline back when I was a commuter pilot. That was really crude living. Wake up, electric razor, deodorant, brush my teeth and go to work I didn't have anything but a full size futon,black out curtains and a -20f sleeping bag.
I think you'll be fine with a high roof long (not extended). I have a second row of captains chairs, a full bed, and could still fit a shower and mini galley if I wanted to in my extended.
A regular length with no extra seating should provide you with the room you need I would think. Best thing would be to go rent one and tape out what you think your build will look like. Or make some cardboard templates and take them to a dealer who has one you can crawl around in.
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I'm exactly 5'10'' so I think I should be ok sleeping across the back. If I do a full size across do you think it would give me enough room for my wish list. The wet bath is kinda a big deal to me. I stay in hotels 3 to 4 nights a week so plenty of time for a long luxurious shower. But in the van I want to have the ability to take a quick Navy shower and get cleaned up. And I don't want to always be on the look out for a McDonalds bathroom. I want to be comfortable. I surely understand that it's always a sacrifice. All things considered I am leaning towards the Regular long but am envious of the Extended long version. But it might be a beast to drive everyday and park.
I have a 148" WB not extended and will have a shower, microwave, 85 liter refrigerator, portapotti mounted permanently in the shower enclosure, sink and counter top. Do not have built in stove. Same design as shown on Sprinter site. That worked very well. One major change will be 4 "Murphy" style bed platform panels that are hinged at the wall and fold down to sit on the table to create the bed platform. I have found that two REI 2 1/2" thick camp pads/person are very comfortable and eliminate the large normal bed mattress.

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Deadwood do you realize that the order books are rumored to have closed for the 2015 Transit model year, and that they won't open for the 2016 MY until May I believe?

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~JP4 Nothing like spending the night in the employee lot. I'm thinking with the right set up it would be downright cozy. Free parking. Can't get closer to the airport. Won't have to worry about where I"ll park for the night. And I think I can save a ton of money to boot.

~Peter Yes. I'm getting the idea that the 2015 run might be over. The dealers I'm talking to are telling me 2015 not problem but it could be anywhere from 8 to 12 weeks. So maybe that has something to do with the 2015 line shutting down. If I have to wait for a 2016 I will. There is no way I will find what I want on a lot anywhere. Between getting the color I want (Love the Blue Jeans) and the options I want it will have to be ordered. If I wait, I wait.


I feel better about going with the Regular Long version now. It's just when you see an empty van there doesn't look like there is much room in there. I'm planning a slow build so I don't feel I'm in a rush. I can see as a daily driver the regular long will be perfect. I can park it anywhere and it won't be noticed. Thanks for the input guys.
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If you go with the long not extended, you will have to compromise deliberately as you realize. The 2 extra feet allows a large percentage increase in volume, but the extended version tall certainly is quite un-stealthy IMO. Not to mention tail-dragging angle of departure issues on irregular roads and driveways.

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Yup.. Nothing like a tail strike to ruin your day.
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