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I'm close to ordering a Transit van to replace my aging 1999 E350 Super Duty which has (I believe) about a 4100# payload.
The E350 is kept very loaded and is more than up to the task whereas my previous E250 was not with (I believe) about a 3300# payload.
The new T250 at 9000 GVWR and a 3770# payload looks like it will probably fit the bill for me even if I need to "slim down" a bit.


From my readings, it seems to me that the only difference between the T250 and the T350 is the rear spring rate at about $1250. By comparison, my E350 looks like it has upgraded wheels, tires and brakes in addition to springs when compared to the E250.


Am I reading this right? $1250 for simply substituting different rear springs during assembly............ Ka-Ching!


In any case, if I order a T250 and find it lacking in payload, can I assume that
it would be relatively simple and safe to upgrade the rear springs to T350 rates? If so, I'll bet that $1250 might cover the cost.
Again, am I reading all this correctly or missing something?
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Different wheels on the 350, can't even get the alloys on it.
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The T-350 Transit that was in my "hood" (wagon 15 pass.) had the alloys on it (M-plated)
I was riding my ruckus around, and waited/looked around @ it hoping the guy (or girl) would see me and come out (Ford Engineer).It was Labor day(ecoboost)
Every T-350 Cargo I have seen has the white wheels and a little bit bigger tires, (I was crawling around that low roof LWB Cargo powerstroke T-350 @ the Transit-tour in Dearborn ( I was reaming it, trying the tow/haul mode)
I see alot of m-plated stuff, so atleast they are trying it?
I think the white wheels are stronger?, The tires a little bit bigger, higher load rating
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I am thinking the 350 has dual wheels on the back not just bigger springs. More wheels less shelf room in my case. Went with the 250.
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Don't need dual rear wheels to be a T-350, all the Enterprise rental wagons are Low roof, 148 wheel base, single tire rear wheel, The T-350 cargo I drove was single rear wheel. You can get the dual rear wheels, but everyone I have seen are high roof extended Cargo or wagon.
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I believe the literature says that the tire size on all SRW Transits is the same.
I may be wrong but I'm assuming that the tire load ratings are also the same.
Are the standard SRW wheels on the T350 really different than on the T250?
If so, is that the only difference besides the rear spring rate?
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I believe the literature says that the tire size on all SRW Transits is the same.
I may be wrong but I'm assuming that the tire load ratings are also the same.
Are the standard SRW wheels on the T350 really different than on the T250?
If so, is that the only difference besides the rear spring rate?
The ones I looked at where (tires), they where pre-production Transit's used in the "Transit-Tour"1st thing I looked @ before driving it was the tires, a little bit bigger, all the T-350 SRW ones had white wheels? I am not the expert, but have not seen any Cargo T-350's (SRW) at the dealer yet. You look for just that (tire size,rating,look at the writing molded in the side wall
I always liked the 8 lug wheels, floating rear axles on the Econoline, T-350 is more than it seams, Sales people are just starting to learn these. Start looking at this stuff if/when you get a chance, don't let anyone "TELL" you
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I seem to remember that the 350 single wheel Transit had more bolts or different bolt pattern. The 350 HD is the duelly. I played around trying to build the single wheel 350 back in August and it wouldn't take the alloys, but that means nothing. Still, I believe that even the brochure shows differen wheels and no alloy option.
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I seem to remember that the 350 single wheel Transit had more bolts or different bolt pattern. The 350 HD is the duelly. I played around trying to build the single wheel 350 back in August and it wouldn't take the alloys, but that means nothing. Still, I believe that even the brochure shows differen wheels and no alloy option.
OK, this is how it is, (well, atleast in my mind):

T-350HD is DRW, front wheels are 6 lugs (different)

T-350 is SRW 5 lug, white wells, bigger tires (higher load rating)

The one I saw by my house was a T-350 wagon (low roof, LWB) had "your" alloy's put on it. ( I noticed the wheel centers, or ford oval was missing from the wheel centers, Manufact.-plated was a T-350,ecoboost, hitch,same silver as yours, tow-haul button, someone's charge cord for their phone hanging from the console, box of kleenex on top of console) If you where a cop, you could find this vehicle in 10 min. Does this sound like I remember it?
If I bought a T-350 (SRW) I can bolt your wheels on. The brochurce does not list those wheels, the T-350 Cargo with the white STEEL wheels HAVE bigger tires/higher load rating. This was a WAGON,you bought a CARGO
I will try to posts some pictures of the T-350 (SRW) I drove @ the tour (I have seen it on the web
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I drove a single rear wheel 350 cargo at the ride and drive that had noticeably larger tires than the others & black wheels. Looked good. Can't remember if it was a full floater or not. It was sitting next to a 250 cargo, which I also drove Originally thought it was a 1500. Smaller tires, black wheels, non full floater. Both were EB's.
Also drove a 350 DRW cargo, diesel. It had white wheels. It was a full floater as I recall.

If it was me, and I had a business van that carried the weight all the time, I wouldn't even consider not getting the 350. $1250. is the retail price. That's not what you'll pay for it

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