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The diesel really shines if you do a lot of towing- which I do. Loaded down with probably 800-1000 lbs in the van and towing a 3500 lb travel trailer I get 15-16MPG at 65 MPH.
The gas engines may get near the same mileage empty but drop like a rock towing....many report 10-11 towing similar loads.
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Not if your comparing to a 3.5, I had 4.900# in my van and lost very little MPG
But you weren't towing that load...big difference. A van carrying a certain weight will always get way better than towing the same weight trailer

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Give me a 1.5 liter diesel/electric hybrid system and I'm in.

The newer diesels are fine, I think the 3.2 is a good match for 99% of Transit users who want diesel. Diesel motor is 30-40% more efficient than gas due to design, but does produce some larger waste product particles. I don't think engineers have reached the pinnacle yet on trapping those particles; the DEF and catalytic converters are just a quick bandaid slapped on to continue production while they come up with something more efficient and reliable. Power output of internal combustion has pretty much peaked, we're not going to see much more than a percent or two increases per liter of displacement anymore, and we're not going to see any significant MPG improvement just from engine design, either (the 500mpg carburetor was a myth, no one holds the patent hidden in a safe, they would make FAR more money making 500mpg cars than they would selling gas at this point). We're alive during the decline of the internal combustion motor, advances in battery technology will bring in the age of the electric vehicle.

Everyone has their own unique needs, if I was going to tow a lot I'd just get a heavy duty pickup. Wouldn't it be cool if they made a pickup with a small door to get from the cab to the bed? The use of a camper would then become much more desirable. Maybe even a connection system in the bed that would pass crash tests, allowing the use of a removable passenger compartment. Like a bench seat mount on steroids.

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Hey Budsky you just made me feel a **** of a lot better.. I'm currently on Route 80 75 miles per hour long wheel base medium roof 3.7 gas 13.8 mpg. How frustrating it's amazing not a lot a big difference between the diesel in the gas motor at that speed
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by the way that 13.8 is the computer readout
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The 5.4 I had in my E250 got 11/12...... I'm grinning at 14.5 to 15 with my 3.7 loaded with 1500 lbs of equipment in a hilly area.

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The 5.4 I had in my E250 got 11/12...... I'm grinning at 14.5 to 15 with my 3.7 loaded with 1500 lbs of equipment in a hilly area.
I'm hang-dog at 16 average with my 3.7 with 1000lb +/- of stuff after getting 25 with my Sprinter with the same stuff on the same roads.

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