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Well, the Ford Tech. thought they were too close to the Cat. Converter or he thought it could be the angle. Speaking with John yesterday he wasn't sure. He said both CV boots were missing. He also said that their is a plastic component near the cat. converter (in close proximity to where the CV boot was) so he ruled that out. It could be the angle...even though it is well within the limit. He has driveline guys working on it. He assured me that if it is a design issue, that he will get the van back to PDX to have it corrected.

So far so good though.

Morey I'm curious as to how often you are running it in 4WD?
So far, close to 0%. I'm based in San Diego so the only time I need it is when I go to Baja or to the mountains. Probably going to Mammoth towards the end of January so hopefully try it out then.

It's a balance of actually working on the van with what free time I have or using the van.

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Thanks for the info, I want a Transit and my better half wants a Sprinter so we can have 4WD.
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Thank you much for keeping us up on your experience. Congrats on the baby! Sorry about the van... hey, it’s plenty to haul a baby with!

Hmmm, I stopped in to QV just before Christmas and John said they only had 10 more version 1 conversions left (so those certain folks would have them this winter). So, he thought it was just a matter of time… I didn’t get the impression a YEAR! I hope not. I elected to wait for version 2.0 and have been in queue through Newberg Ford since May (actually got in line when I ordered it in March I suppose).

For the benefit of others in a similar predicament… this is the QuadVan timeline for what I know:
August 8 2016- Visited QV, John showed me the 3D printed knuckle for version 2.0 he’d just received and was going to fit it up, make adjustments as needed and get a casting for prototype.

Sept 26- Dale at Newberg told me that QV had sent out for castings twice and both had “failed” due to a particular hole that was being elongated in the casting process. Sounded TO ME as being a foundry issue and not design problem.

Dec 20- I dropped in and didn’t have enough time to ask pointed questions, but John did tell me about the 10 remaining. Because of being busy with those he was unable to do much further development for version 2.0 and mentioned to the effect that some ‘process still needed to get done’. Then we got off into the weeds about some other questions I had and about installing a TrueTrac and the time flew.

Fortunately I’ve been having my up-fitter customize the van since it’s been delivered from Ford, thinking QV would be ready when the interior was complete. It should be done within a few weeks though and was hoping the 4x4 wouldn’t be too far behind. It’s been weird owning a van for nearly a year and only taking it for one post production test drive.
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Robvert, I'm curious as to what the version 2.0 is? This leads me to believe that version 1.0 must have an inferior design or there is a flaw. I wonder if it those that have version 1.0 and blow out front drivelines will get a new version 2.0??? I mean, I'm all about research and development but it would be nice to know that if there is a design flaw that those of us who have the inferior design will be taken care and not left high and dry in a snow storm...again.

With regard to the year our timeline...I'm just repeating what John said. Maybe its a combination of ordering from Dale, taking delivery and then getting the 4x4 conversion. Who knows?

How often are those with the 4x4 conversion running there 4x4 system? We've been using ours pretty much daily here and with another 5 feet of snow in the forecast for the upcoming week, I don't see us stopping. Admittedly, I get kind of nervous. The tech that replaced the driveline at our local Ford dealership did not express a whole lot of confidence in the 4x4 system. I hope he is wrong and that John is right.

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Considering a QuadVan conversion? Read this first. Have one already? Read anyway.

Back in November/December of 2015 Dale from Newberg Ford told me that John from QuadVan was going to switch up the parts he was using as he was having a very hard time getting some of the required parts from Europe. I wonder if that is what John is calling "version 2.0" ¯\(°_o)/¯ .

Seems like version 1.0 used mostly stock parts but those parts were very hard to get. Version 2 might include some new custom parts to help with lead times.

-- begin speculation --
I guess what I'm hinting at is maybe version 2 is purely for production needs and not a design decision.
-- end speculation --
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In Europe the Transit is available AWD, FWD and rear wheel drive. He was probably using the European AWD front knuckle.

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I’m sorry, my intention is not to start nor dispel any rumors, I was just laying out the bit I know. BTW, I am the one calling them version 1.0 and 2.0… they are not ‘officially’ referred to as such.

Morey - I believe your assessment is correct… that is what I think both John and Dale have been trying to tell me (us) but without getting into all the technical details (I’m just picky and like to delve into those details, so I get a bit frustrated at not knowing them).

Rene12341 – I think that’s a good assumption. John did mention with this custom knuckle that he would be able to make it a free-wheeling automatic hub (which Quigley does as well, so maybe they make their own knuckle too?).

JGT250 – I think the original design (1.0) is probably fine and the CV failure was just that. I was told the same thing as Morey by both Dale and John. He didn’t specifically state which parts, but I got the impression that he discovered the European part(s) was simply difficult to get in bulk and that would become an issue considering how many orders started to come in… he did mention how surprised he was at the popularity of a converted Transit. One reason I felt comfortable picking Quadvan is that they have engineered and built many 4x4 conversions thru the years… from my research they have had a good reputation… and my upfitter (Van Haus Vans) owns a Quadvan and he thinks highly of them.
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