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I like synthetic oils quite a bit, there are lots of advantages to them.

But any conventional API-SN rated oil is most certainly not junk. The overwhelming majority of engines today will outlast the rest of the vehicle by following the manufacturer's scheduled maintenance with conventional oil. One example that comes to mind is the guy in the EcoBoost forum with over 300,000 miles on his 2011 F150. Oil changes with conventional Valvoline every 6-8,000 miles and he's never had an engine problem.

Cold start performance, ability to keep engine parts clean, and the ability to run longer drain intervals are all great reasons to choose synthetic over conventional. The idea that your engine will fail early with conventional isn't, that's never proven to be true.

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Shame you didn't keep a fuel log for an extended time period, to be convincing it would probably need to go beyond the first 1800 break in miles.

Then continue to keep a log after switching to synthetic oil & post any change. Say 5000 miles on conventional oil vs. 5000 miles on synthetic.

From all the claims made for synthetic oils readers should expect to see a small increase in fuel economy. Would be interesting to see documentation of this to judge how significant it might be.

The seat of the pants claim that it's an entirely different vehicle reminds me of Marvel Mystery Oil & STP additives.
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What Tom said. Oil is oil. Put in the correct spec and yer good.
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Someone else already mentioned it, it's the placebo effect. I run synthetic oil in all my vehicles and I change the oil way to often. It doesn't need it but it makes me feel better.
If the vehicle feels and drives totally different after just an oil change than there is something else going on.

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I had the same experience when we had the van detailed after it went months without being washed.
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The oiling really the problem. It's the pollutants and contaminants and especially humidity getting in the oil breaking it down and making it less effective.

The synthetic has a better resistance to this but still needs changing. Oil is cheap enough that it's not a problem changing it earlier than you really have to.
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Is 5w20 the spec'd oil for 2016 3.7? My 2015 (Ecoboost) says 5w30. Using lighter oil might have some driveability effect.

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Is 5w20 the spec'd oil for 2016 3.7? My 2015 (Ecoboost) says 5w30. Using lighter oil might have some driveability effect.
Yep. 5W-20 for the 3.7L, 5W-30 for the 3.5L Ecoboost, and 5W-40 (or even 5W-30, 0W-30 or 0W-40) for the 3.2L Diesel - if using biodiesel, 5W-40 is listed. This is for US, Mexican and Canadian markets according to the user manual.

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1. I wouldn't sell Ford short on the oil they are putting in their engines.


2. I don't know this but, it would be to Ford's benefit to install "break in" oil at the factory.


3. Yes, Mobil makes a very good oil


4. My mileage continued to get better the longer I drive the van however, after the first oil change (at a ford Dealer) the mileage jumped noticeably. I'd be shocked that they are using Mobile 1.


5. 5-20 could be lighter than what the Factory installed and that would also partially explain your reality.
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Not sure anyone uses break-in oil from the factory anymore. I do know that at least one vehicle comes from the factory with Mobil 1 in it and that's the Corvette. I suspect there are other vehicles that use synthetic from the factory.
As far as the OP's claim, I have found over the years that the butt dyno is not very accurate.
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