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Has anyone tried the nokian winter tires with the Chrystal's mixed into the rubber which apparently helps to dig down to the pavement sorta like tire studs?

In the for what it is worth department: I used to run Hakapalita's on our cars and the traction is down right unbelievable. If you couldn't drive the speed limit then it was WAY too bad to be out - they were that good. I also put them on a Sprinter and had belt slip issues.....I stopped using them because *I* thought the quality control had been lost. I'd like to hope I am wrong.


As has been observed, can you get them in a size that will work/fit and can you get them with a high enough weight rating? Then are you prepared to pay that much for snow tires?
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I have no idea how much they are. I just saw an advertisement about them.
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Went with 4 Firestone Winter Force 225/75-16's tires mounted on a set of spare factory Alloy Wheels. They have a E Rating which is enough for my T-250 Van.

Our worst snow storm this Winter was a Super Heavy Wet 9'' onslaught and the tires performed admirably once I turned off the Traction Control. My Van is equipped with LS and Front & Rear traction was great. Even forcing it on a snow covered corner it went exactly where i wanted it to. I also had no problem going thru about 12-15" inches of snow to get on our driveway after the plow had gone by.

I highly recommend getting Snow Tires if you live anywhere that it snows on a regular basis.

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Yes,we may have been hit with the same storm yesterday. I am in Michigan and had 13" of wet snow. I could not make it up a hill in our subdivision that my e350 never had a problem with. Frustrating! I don't know why Ford decided to use such small tires.
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Question for you guys getting stuck. Limited slip differentials on your vans? Dusters photo below looks like the type of BS my open diff'd Sprinter used to give me. The ol' one tire fire.

LSD is the ticket. A set of snow or all terrain tires are key too.
3.73 Limited slip Axle X7L $325.00

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I do have the 3.31 limited slip. Not sure what the e350 has.
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Actually fit

These aren't the easiest to track down.


Nokian does make the WRC line of tires. The plain 3 is listed as all season, the R3 is listed as a winter tire and they appear to have the identical tread pattern.


There is also a Cargo which on the Nokian website says is studded.


The good news is that they actually come in 235/65/16 and a load rating of 121!


I found a bit of information and some pricing at: Tires By Web. The C3 listed at $196.00 per tire and the R3 listed at $195.00


I found another website that had at the very least decent reviews, some of the reviews were quite glowing.


If this were December I would buy. I will wait this out a bit and see if anything develops before next year.


One big plus of these is if you can find a dealer that has them you shouldn't have to argue with them that they meet factory specs.


Again MY experience with Nokian (Hakkapalita) tires is absurd amounts of traction in the snow, to the point that back in the day when you mail ordered them out of Minnesota he wouldn't sell you just two tires. It was four or forget it - and that was a good policy.


Good luck!
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I really wish I could get some videos or testimonials of the transit limited slip with winter tires in snow, on hills in snow, in a bit of a hole in snow. I live in Vermont and am going to replace my cab chassis 4x4 and the sprinter 4x4 is not an option. Im not interested in diesel emission issues. It's down to transit (4x4 conversion if it's quick, I know its not) or Ram Promaster (which makes me sad). They both have good points, but I want excellent traction and not to get stuck everywhere I go all winter. Thoughts?

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Well, I have driven vans for 35 years, all rear wheel drive. I carry quite a bit of weight. I have never had traction issues until now. I really don't think it's the transit design but mostly the Hancock tires on it. They just don't bite in the snow. The other issue is tire size. The 65 series is wider. The tire wants to float. Next year I will go with a 235/75/16 with a similar weight rating. This will give a skinny tire with greater circumference thus more tire to grip. The key is skinny tires.
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One more thought, the transit vs the econoline should have better front to back weight differential meaning less weight in the front since they have V6 vs V8 engine in the econoline.
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