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What snow tires did you go with?
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I got the Continental VanContact Winter in the stock size with the C load rating.
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So, ordered a set of Continental (VancocontactWinter) E rated tires to replace the kooks. For the heck of it I called Ford and they have a Goodyear UltraGrip for about $400 less in an E rate.

Anybody have experience with these Goodyear's

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That's what I get for believing a service writer at the stealership. Even asked her to confirm the E rating, she confirms then emails me the quote.

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I had the same problem with a tire dealer that many trust out west Les Schawb 2 years ago.

They sold me the new Toyo RT ( have way between the MT and AT2). Looked great more aggressive looking than the AT2 l and wet and snow traction much better than the MT.

Problem was even they didn't check the tire weight ratings.. I put on a 1 ton F350 platinum with 35 x 12.5 x 20. They were rated E but not enough for the 3/4 ton let alone my 1ton.

They said they were never notified by Toyo (it is their job to know not hard they specialize in tires?) the load range change. they did some digging and found out that they sold 10's of thousands of the MT that had the lower rating too. I told all my friends who had trucks (fleets of them for work too) and the Toyo MTs as they were the most popular tire they sold that the load ratings wouldn't cover their rigs. Knowing this the insurance company tried to deny my friends accident too. Les Schapb themnn tried to charge me to change out to their AT as they couldn't find an aggressive trie that cover my rig in that size. I had my lawyer send a little note to them saying they were responsible to know what they put on and that it is safe and rated for any vehical. He used their own disclaimer against them saying they have to follow manufacturers recomendations. They wont install two snow tires only four for ( SAFETY come on) but tried to pawn off that the tire weight reatings not that important? Only reason we found this out was I had flat spotted the bead of 2 sets in 9 months and I don't load too much weight maybe 2,200 payload max).

I am writing this for two reasons.... don't trust any shops tire specialists included and do your own research to make sure you have a safe and properly rated tire. Second those that in this post that put lower load range tires they could be voiding their insurance coverage in an accident!!!
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Last week, I got stuck in 4" of unplowed fresh snow on flat ground with the OEM Vanco's.

So, I just ordered the Nokian / Hakkapeliittaa CR3 tires from my local small town mechanic shop who is also a Nokian dealer. I ordered the stock size 235's which have the same weight rating as the OEM Vanco 4seasons, i.e. 121/119. I'm paying about $214 per tire plus installation.

I went back and forth between the 235's and taller 225's. Stayed with the stock size for no particular reason other than the 225 CR3's would have taken an additional week to get here.

I'm having the Nokians put on the OEM steel wheels. I'll ask the tire guy what he thinks of the tread left on the Vanco 4 seasons. To me, it doesn't look like there's all that much left after 23k miles, so I may just pitch them.

In February/March, I'll shop around for inexpensive wheels and put some summer oriented tires on them.

I figured that with a rear wheel drive, usually empty, 12 passenger 350 wagon, and frequent snowy and icy roads in central Wisconsin, the safer bet is to switch to a softer compound tire for the winter. One time in a ditch and having to get towed out isn't worth it to me compared to the extra expense of another complete set of tires and wheels.

I'll report back with what I think of the Nokians.
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And so it goes, my guy called me after picking them up, and tells me they are the 4 season Vanco tires. Uggh

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And so it goes, my guy called me after picking them up, and tells me they are the 4 season Vanco tires. Uggh

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Recommend ordering the correct tire online. You will get a better deal and get exactly what you want.

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Recommend ordering the correct tire online. You will get a better deal and get exactly what you want.
I was trying to avoid that, prefer to support local businesses, but. Looks like I will be hitting up the internet tonight and have a friend mount them up.

Gonna check out the Nokia's. Thanks Ford

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Larry, what are you running? CR3's in the 235/65? or the WR C3's?

Sorry a little late....236/65 Winter version........Not real creative but, I knew they would fit, the speedo would still be on and the load rating was there. Sorry guys but I'll break it to you now...the older you get the less hassle you need! LOL.....
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I was told by my local tire shop that they had installed snows in this alternate size on some of the Transits that came in due to cost and they have heard feedback about the vans "wandering" and not being stable. A friend has a T250 and did this and he told me the same thing after buying the alternate size snows. I bit the bullet and bought the Continental Vancontact Winter in the stock size...no issues, even at highway speed.


By definition a 75 series tire is clearly going to have a taller sidewall than a 65 series tire....which is again by definition going to flex more. Add that to an already rather soft ride for a commercial vehicle.....but actual wandering? Tread pattern will also be a player in all of this.
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