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How to Verify a Motor has been Replaced?

Been looking for used transits for the past few months. Finally found one not too far from home with the right configurations at (close to) the right price.

I had been asking if they knew the history of the vehicle (has almost 100k on it) and was negotiating on price when the guy brings it up after his fifth trip back to talk to the sales manager. They say the PO had blown up the motor, allowed the vehicle to be repossessed by the bank, at which point the dealership bough it from the bank and put a new crate motor (including turbos [3.5]) into it themselves. They produced some marginally convincing paperwork, and sure enough the motor itself looked pretty new. All surrounding components looked about 100k old.

I was hoping to find a serial number on the motor itself to try to do some sleuthing myself but couldn't find anything that seemed to fit the ticket. Can I call ford and verify this before I decide to purchase or not?
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They should have no problem throwing in a 5/60 warranty on that new motor. If they won't, why should you have confidence in their work when they don't?
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They should have no problem throwing in a 5/60 warranty on that new motor. If they won't, why should you have confidence in their work when they don't?
That's a good point - I actually asked the guy about it today and all he could come up with was that I could buy one of their extended warranties due to the miles on the body. Not encouraging.
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Crate motor will not have a VIN as it was not built and installed in the vehicle on the assembly line. If the vehicle had a blown motor due to abuse and then was repossessed, I would suspect other parts of the Transit may have been abused such as transmission or engine accessories.

With that type of mileage on the chassis and the circumstances, I would pass on this one. The other abused parts may show failure after you get it and I think there are a lot of better selections on Transits if you expand your search.

On the paperwork you looked at, did it show the replacement of the turbos? A blown 3.5L engine may have involved a problem with the turbos so not replacing them would keep a possible problem still existing.
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Crate motor will not have a VIN as it was not built and installed in the vehicle on the assembly line. If the vehicle had a blown motor due to abuse and then was repossessed, I would suspect other parts of the Transit may have been abused such as transmission or engine accessories.

With that type of mileage on the chassis and the circumstances, I would pass on this one. The other abused parts may show failure after you get it and I think there are a lot of better selections on Transits if you expand your search.

On the paperwork you looked at, did it show the replacement of the turbos? A blown 3.5L engine may have involved a problem with the turbos so not replacing them would keep a possible problem still existing.
Turbos have been replaced.

Just playing devil's advocate here, but what damage could you really do to a transmission over that kind of time (100k)?
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You could do a lot of damage to the trans in 100K- why was the engine blown? Was someone dogging the H out of it? If so the trans has had a rough life.
Or maybe the engine was blown from something stupid but the trans is fine- really hard to know.
Unfortunately dropping the trans pan to have a look on a Transit is a huge PITA...

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You could do a lot of damage to the trans in 100K- why was the engine blown? Was someone dogging the H out of it? If so the trans has had a rough life.
Or maybe the engine was blown from something stupid but the trans is fine- really hard to know.
Unfortunately dropping the trans pan to have a look on a Transit is a huge PITA...
According to the dealer the guy failed to change the oil for some very long interval. It was used commercially but everything else about the van seems to be in pretty good shape (as in not really abused).

Not sure what the service interval on the trans is but I suppose if he skipped the oil he probably didn't do trans fluid either.
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i have saw rods go thru the side of the block from the lack of oil (heavy truck engines) and cause the crankshaft to instantly lock up, that would put a severe strain on the rest of the drive train!

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Not sure what the service interval on the trans is but I suppose if he skipped the oil he probably didn't do trans fluid either.
I think it is way out there at something like 150K. I can assure you mine will be serviced way before that though

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Jiffy lube has been known to leave a oil pan bolt off and then it all drains out on the way home.
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