I finally got a chance to take my 'puter outside, and compare. At first, I saw no difference -- I was looking at the door, itself. But, the backing plate that mounts around the filler neck is what's new, mainly the enlarged flange near the top. It's hard to tell from the pic, just what makes it better, though...?
No. The real difference is in the hinges. Before, there was one small plastic tab on the back side of the center hinge. On my door, that little plastic tab broke.
I heard twice, from the first service manager that they didn't do that. When the second service guy called (and erroneously told me that the turbos were shot) we went over the list and I casually mentioned that the calibration wasn't on the list. He added it without comment. ???
Yes. I checked with GPS and cruise control. Before the new tires, I was dead on. After the new tires, I was -2 to -4. Across 35 to 65. After calibration, I'm -1 to dead even across the speed range.
With 1500 miles left on warranty the other manifold started leaking and making the slide whistle sound. It goes in Tuesday. Also, for some reason, the speedo reset. Now it's not calibrated.
Airedrifter, what oil are you running in your ecoboost, and at what interval are you changing it? You should be using a full synthetic 5w 30 or 40 with a good high temp high shear rating and be changing it at no more than 5k mile intervals. Ford's ultra lax recommendations for oil and its extended change intervals WILL cost you those turbos, AND a timing chain job.
I've run two 3.5EB F150's in the last 4 years - 68k on the last one and 100k on the one before that. I do use full synthetic, but change oil based on the vehicle computer, and both had no issues, and showed no signs of issues.
There are more variables than just what oil you use and when you change it to make a blanket statement like that, especially in CAPS
Instead of arguing about oil, just say - You do it your way, and I'll do it mine. I've been on forums for years, and oil discussions never go well. The diesel forums were the best for that!
djbikeman, I understand your playful tone. Such sensitive times we live in when two words in all caps, get our panties in a bunch. Its just a shame to see a nice engine get trashed because we trusted the manufacturers recommendations on oil and change intervals. They're like government, they don't have our best interest in mind.
I guess it's all relative... 80-90k miles on a 2012 is just out of powertrain warranty. To me, an engine with 90k miles on it is just broken in, diesel or gasser, not time for a trade in. Manufacturers need the vehicle to make it out of warranty, after that, they could care less. Lets not hijack the turbo whine/busted manifold thread just yet.
I've been told the same thing. Under the "tire settings" in the computer for calibration only the stock size is listed. If it can be done I'd love to know. The stock tire size leaves very limited options...
I got my van back and had an interesting conversation I thought I'd share.
I got down to the dealership when the mechanics were waiting for the clock to click to 5. I knew the mechanic that worked on my van and we started talking about the exhaust manifolds. About 5 or 6 of the other mechanics chimed in. I specifically asked if Ecoboost engines in the F150s was having similar problems and every mechanic said that my van was the first one they had seen with broken manifold bolts. All were perplexed as to why both sides had broken.
When I checked out, the cost to me was $0.00.
So it goes. I now have 59,483 miles on mine. The warranty is about over.
...I specifically asked if Ecoboost engines in the F150s was having similar problems and every mechanic said that my van was the first one they had seen with broken manifold bolts. All were perplexed as to why both sides had broken.
The type of oil I use would have no bearing on manifold bolts. Further, the suggestion that someone would not use anti-seize on manifold bolts or that I would have any input as to how mechanics performed warranty work is silly.
I'm relieved it was only manifold bolts and not the turbos. Mine was built before they figured out they were jacked up. By about a week! I really don't want to hear that they are starting to crap out on people.
Turbo whine, left side, again. Took it to dealer. Yep. Though, this time they say the gasket broke. Out of warranty. Estimate $1750 to repair. Ford Customer Service has started a Case #. We'll see.
Brother, I bet they knew exactly what was causing this,
Stick to your guns and have to fix it under warranty as you had reported it before and failed to act and correct it. Call them out and say they missed it,
"Thank you for contacting the Ford Customer Relationship Center regarding your recent vehicle concern.
We have thoroughly reviewed your request and after careful consideration we regret that Ford is not able to provide financial assistance to address your issue.
We are sorry that we were not able to meet your expectations at this time and recommend you continue to work with your Ford dealership to provide the best service for your vehicle in the future.
Thank you again for contacting Ford.
The Ford Customer Relationship Center
Ford Motor Company"
My vehicle does not fall within the lemon law criteria.
I'm not sure how they know it is the gasket. I'm thinking they don't really know. However, I will say that the noise this time (although it did start the same) is significantly different. This time you can hear an obvious exhaust leak while idling. Before, the leaks just whistled when the turbo kicked it. I'm thinking the block has something going on. I could be that the first times were odd, but they broke several manifold bolts in disassembly. Certainly, there would have been plenty of opportunity to screw it up in straightening it out.
I've still got one more corporate appeal going. We'll see.
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