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Ok, so after about a week I figure I will post my latest experiences.


Using setting (B8):
This setting does feel more aggressive than my previous setting (B7), with a faster punch and more mid end torque. What I didn't like about this setting was how touchy the throttle was. I always had to be very careful to just barely touch the pedal starting off or else the van would jump. This does make sense though, as map B does have the most aggressive gains down low. As such, this is not exactly what I was looking for.


Setting (A9):
I wanted to just try this map, as it is the least aggressive down low, so I wouldn't have to worry about the van jumping if I accidentally press the throttle a tad too hard. Right away this map reminded me of the way my van ran when it was stock. It took a while to accelerate, it does seem to give more torque in the mid range area, but then falls off at about 3400 RPMs. Again, not what I am looking for.


Setting (D6)
This is definitely my map. It just gives a little extra starting off, as not to make the throttle too sensitive, it adds a HUGE amount of torque going up the RPM range, and the transmission shifts before the power starts falling off. This setting also kept the DPF the cleanest for the most miles out of any of the previous settings, including stock.
I also find it interesting that this is the most "dynamic" map out of all of them, as the most time was probably spent making/testing this one.

Here is how my van now shifts with the (D6) map:


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WOT:


3rd gear torque test:


With the torque test, you basically set the transmission into Manual 3rd gear and see how fast you can go from 10mph-40mph and what RPMs the engine jumps to from start to finish. I think its a great (poor mans) torque comparison test for those of you who want to compare Transits.

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So that's slipping the TC majorly huh? I wonder if you can get it to lock up around 1400 rpm in third and pull from there?

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I don't think 0-50 in 10 seconds is going to be threatening any 3.5 drivers, Motor Trend tested one at 7.6 for 0-60.
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Everytime I test all my stuff flies off the overhead storage compartment into my head.
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Agree, 10.1 seconds for 0 to 50 is relatively slow. That probably won't even beat a standard V6.

Like Motor Trend said a couple of years ago, Diesels "feel" fast, gasoline "is" fast.

Torque is most useful off the line in first gear because it yields more "power", but at speed it's "power" and not torque that gets the job done. That's why in instrumented testing the vehicle with more power to weight ratio almost always wins. It's unfortunate that marketing has corrupted the science of torque versus power.
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I guess I forgot to state that my van weighs 9,035 lbs (with driver). I am not 100% but I don't think Motor Trend tested the 3.5 with the van with equipment in it. I do have to clean it out for boiler equipment, so I will test it again empty and see what #s I get.
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I bet Xphobe's tuned 3.2 can have an 3.5 eb for breakfast across an intersection from a dead stop. That's all I need my diesel to do in order to get where i'm going more quickly. Just get me a truck length ahead of the dingus next to me so I can get ahead and not be subject to his/her inevitable boneheaded driving.

Also, 7.5 to 60 dead empty isn't quick enough for all the extra fuel you're using in an Ecoboost.

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I guess I forgot to state that my van weighs 9,035 lbs (with driver). I am not 100% but I don't think Motor Trend tested the 3.5 with the van with equipment in it. I do have to clean it out for boiler equipment, so I will test it again empty and see what #s I get.
So that WOT video was at 9035 lbs? That's mighty impressive.

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Ok, so after about a week I figure I will post my latest experiences.


Setting (D6)
This is definitely my map. It just gives a little extra starting off, as not to make the throttle too sensitive, it adds a HUGE amount of torque going up the RPM range, and the transmission shifts before the power starts falling off. This setting also kept the DPF the cleanest for the most miles out of any of the previous settings, including stock.
I also find it interesting that this is the most "dynamic" map out of all of them, as the most time was probably spent making/testing this one.
Thanks a bunch for being brave enough to try this out for "us". Can I assume you purchased it off the Bluespark website directly?

I'm a diesel newbie but a long time gearhead car/bike mechanic so I was definitely planning on a tuner of some sort. I like pretty much everything I read about this unit and your very positive feedback might just seal the deal for me.

I looked at the map curves and the D6 definitely looks like what I'd want.

Do you have a ODBII scanner setup? I'd be very interested to know if the EGT really are staying near stock or possibly cooler. That's my only concern.

Please keep updating the thread as you live/drive with it. Hopefully all will be good and maybe a few of us will take the plunge.

Personally I prefer the plug n play type rather than a full ECU flash as it's much easier to go back to stock if need be.

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xphobe,

Anymore updates on this?

I'm quite interested and would like to know if it's "solid", meaning no error codes being thrown after time etc.

Have you settled on the D7 map for good? Any words of wisdom on the installation?

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