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Engine Block Heater Working?

So it's starting to get cold in Anchorage, and I decided it was time to try out the block heater as a test. The temps dipped down to 15 F this morning, and I wanted to see how much of a difference was had after leaving the van plugged in all night.

The engine definitely had a little trouble starting when I cranked her up, which was concerning. Usually I just remote start and let it run 10 minutes, but this time I sat in the cab and waited for her to heat up, and it seemed to make no discernible difference in time with the heater plugged in or not.

Before I started the engine I put my hand on the block and it felt a tad bit warmer than the rest of the van. There wasn't any ice on the hood, so I guess that means it was working? Is the heater just not that great on these vans? I've never used a heater before, so I have no idea what to expect in terms of performance and whatnot

The temps are going down to 0 later this week, and so I want to make sure the block heater is doing it's job. Any good test to run aside from testing the amperage on the plug?


As a side note, the ice and snow have already been quite bad up here, but the all season stock tires are doing work. I ended up loading down the rear axle with about 250 lbs of pea gravel (for use in emergencies if I did get stuck in a ditch) and that seems to really help. Thinking of throwing the aftermarket rims in too to add more. I've had a lot of slipping and sliding, but she's hanging tough with the best of the AWD studded lot.

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I just looked at my window sticker---and according to it an engine heater is installed in my vehicle---and they charged me $75 for it.

Thing is---------------I can't find the plug in ???
Where the heck is it ???

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Check inside the engine compartment, along the inside top, closest to you, above the radiator, behind the hood support latch, right of the hood release latch. You should see a black plastic tube (corrugated plastic tube that wires go in) with a larger black plastic/rubber end plug. it might be taped into a loop. That is the plug-in (male) part of the block heater. Hope this helps.

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Spudz- I have a engine block heater in my 1998 E-150, normally I don't plug it in until it's 0 or below. It's noticeable when I crank the motor with it vs without it. Cabin compartment heats up quicker as well. Read somewhere that about 3 hours prior to start is all you need so I just use a timer and have it come on to meet my expected departure time. It didn't get added to my special order transit but will be one of the first items I add to it along with splash guards. Think it would really help you in your climate but I'm not a guru on the amount of watts those things put out with from the Factory.


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So it's starting to get cold in Anchorage, and I decided it was time to try out the block heater as a test. The temps dipped down to 15 F this morning, and I wanted to see how much of a difference was had after leaving the van plugged in all night.

The engine definitely had a little trouble starting when I cranked her up, which was concerning. Usually I just remote start and let it run 10 minutes, but this time I sat in the cab and waited for her to heat up, and it seemed to make no discernible difference in time with the heater plugged in or not.

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So, you had it plugged in all night at 15F and there was not a discernible difference in ease of starting? That is a little worrying. I wonder how many watts the heater draws. Usually these days, we're advised to only preheat for a few hours before starting, as opposed to all night. I only see this as an energy conservation concern.

I have the diesel, and it's been a little noisy on the cold mornings, and we have rarely been below freezing this winter so far. I'm currently coming up with a plan to add a timed outdoor plug for my block heater.

It's supposed to get really cold next week, so I will plug her in and report back.

Side note, my old 6.9 IDI diesel has a block heater in it that is so good that it's the difference between starting and not starting on really cold mornings, and there is actually heat in the cabin after about 10 minutes of idling the beast.

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Plugged her in all night last night. 1st note: It's a pita that you have to open the hood. I'm going to figure out something to bring the plug down lower... somewhere.

2nd: It's hard to say if it helped, because I remote start the van. It did seem to get heat in the cabin a little quicker on this cold morning -12c. I guess better to be looking at it, than looking for it.

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Location for my E-series was in the grill opening, just reached in and connected. Guess it will depend on how long the lead is.


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There is a flat harness for the block heater (similar to a trailer wiring harness) under the hood. I disconnected it there, and fed the flat end through the grill, just to the right of the hood latch mechanism, and back into the engine compartment. It ain't pretty, but it all reached and reconnected without too many bends in the wiring. The plug end is all rubber with a cap, so I figure it shouldn't beat up the chrome grill at all.

I considered fashioning an extension and securing the plug more discreetly in the bumper step void, but opted against that because I can see that area getting really messy with snow and ice and all that crappola.

Tomorrow, comes the GFCI receptacle right next to where I park Big Bertha.

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Hey man, that sucks!!!! First bad news I got commin'!

My E-250 has it at the opening of the bumper too, nice and convenient.

Rats!! I won't have that thing swinging across the grill, so I rekon a short, thick wire outdoor extension cord and route that thing where it should be.

At first I was hoping you'd say that they had it tied up back there but it's plenty long.

Mine gets all messy, too...but it's really not a bother.

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I hope you have somewhere warm to fiddle with it. I took the path of least resistance, as the feeling left my fingers.

I figure that winter is function over form, and in the spring, I'll route it back under the hood.

RIP Lemmy. Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.

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