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Ultra-gauge (or similar) usage

I thought this might be a good place to put together experiences with vehicle monitoring.

I installed an Ultra-gauge yesterday and just got back from a 100 mile trip using it.

I can see benefits but mostly just entertainment.

I really liked and think I could use the instantaneous MPG reading. You can really tell what's effecting your usage.

The boost meter... well, it's interesting.

The engine temp, nice.

The exhaust temps (catalytic converter) temps, again, interesting.

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There has to be a better, though likely more expensive, unit than the Ultra-gauge. The programing is tedious at best, and for the first hour or so, stupefying. The tediousness of manipulating the fuel data and distance data, makes those features worthless. (IMHO) The lack of any documentation and so far unfound Google information regarding transmission temps, leaves a big hole. (In my Google search I found the Ultra-Gauge Forum archives where in 2012, Ultra-Gauge was saying that the data for Ford transmission temp programing would be out in just a few months. And BTW, the current Ultra-Gauge Forum is worthless.)

I know that there is one other Ultra-Gauge user on here. Anyone elses?

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FYI here are the search results [Google box to the right] for Ultra Gauge mentions only on this site:

http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/g...120j4451522j11

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And, here is EBcyclemover's thread, regarding boost gauge and oil PSI gauge. He's using a $15 plug module, with a $5 phone app for interface. Looks tempting.

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I have not had time to figure out the boost gauge on mine, so yes interesting to see negative boost. haha

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Had a scangauge in the old e350, loved it. Dunno about ultragauge. Scan gauge was pretty much plug n play. Wonder if they make one for the t250?
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ScanGaugeE & Ultra Gauge EM Plus

I used the original ScanGauge in a 1999 Tacoma and then a 2010 F150. It did OK in the Taco and not so good in the F150 for "tank average MPG". I got the ScanGaugeE for a 2013 Tacoma and it's done pretty good for "tank average MPG" (see below) and real time MPG. I've had the ScanGaugeE in the Transit since it made it home and for being "untrained", it's doing pretty good. I put in the Ultra Gauge EM Plus for the last break in run and I can't say much about it yet.


ScanGaugeE ScanGaugeE

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                   gallons    price    cost      miles     mpg       odom  calc odom   each  scan gauge for "trip" mpg/gal/mi
December 6, 2014    14.135    2.759    $39.00    267.9    18.953     8529    8528.9     1    19.0 mpg    14.0 gal    268 mi
 January 7, 2015    14.570    2.299    $33.50    280.2    19.231     8809    8809.2     1    18.7 mpg    14.8 gal    279 mi
February 6, 2015    17.507    2.199    $38.50    331.9    18.958     9141    9140.9     1    19.0 mpg    17.3 gal    332 mi
   March 6, 2015    17.389    2.559    $44.50    333.4    19.173     9474    9474.4     1    19.2 mpg    17.2 gal    333 mi
  March 31, 2015    15.344    2.509    $38.50    322.8    21.038     9797    9796.8     1           
  April 15, 2015    15.453    2.459    $38.00    319.3    20.663    10116    10116.3    1    21.0 mpg    15.1 gal    319 mi
     May 9, 2015    15.914    2.639    $42.00    333.1    20.931    10449    10449.1    1    20.1 mpg    16.4 gal    333 mi
    June 2, 2015    14.528    2.719    $39.50    305.4    21.021    10755    10754.4    1    20.3 mpg    14.9 gal    305 mi
   June 12, 2015    12.868    2.750    $35.39    275      21.371    11030    11030.0    1    22.1 mpg    12.3 gal    275 mi








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I can see benefits but mostly just entertainment.

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You can probably use data to help in troubleshooting some problems, but yes, unless you are going to change the way you drive then it's mostly for entertainment. What's the point of data for the sake of data?

I like driving the way I like driving, and don't want a machine telling me how I should be doing it differently. For me personally it would shift the experience more from enjoyment to work.
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You can probably use data to help in troubleshooting some problems, but yes, unless you are going to change the way you drive then it's mostly for entertainment. What's the point of data for the sake of data?

I like driving the way I like driving, and don't want a machine telling me how I should be doing it differently. For me personally it would shift the experience more from enjoyment to work.
ScanGauge can be useful for additional information. In Sprinter it was important to know the engine load, the water temperature, the voltage and the boost. Never used the MPG because it is so easy to do accurately the old fashioned way. In Sprinter it did tell me when to manually shift the non-automatic transmission. Not near as important in the Transit because it has a properly designed transmission and a water temperature gauge.

In Transit I will probably buy the Torque App for my Android tablet.

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I like to monitor speed, RPMs, fuel, voltage, temperature and oil pressure. Fortunately many trucks come with those 6 readings from factory.

Other information can be nice to view, like instantaneous fuel economy; but if I'm not willing to slow down just to make it go up, then what good is it? It may be worse than not having it at all because then I may feel I'm wasting fuel.

I also don't like to rely on a computer to tell me when I should shift. I don't recall my '65 Mustang having a light or gauge that told me when it was optimum time to shift. Doing it by gut feel made it more fun.

Since most cars today have a screen, and the information is already in the computer, I'm not sure why the factory doesn't include access to all this data as standard equipment. Unless they think most people don't care or would know what to do with it.
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I like to monitor speed, RPMs, fuel, voltage, temperature and oil pressure. Fortunately many trucks come with those 6 readings from factory.

Other information can be nice to view, like instantaneous fuel economy; but if I'm not willing to slow down just to make it go up, then what good is it? It may be worse than not having it at all because then I may feel I'm wasting fuel.

I also don't like to rely on a computer to tell me when I should shift. I don't recall my '65 Mustang having a light or gauge that told me when it was optimum time to shift. Doing it by gut feel made it more fun.

Since most cars today have a screen, and the information is already in the computer, I'm not sure why the factory doesn't include access to all this data as standard equipment. Unless they think most people don't care or would know what to do with it.
Agree. We have similiar ideas on the subject. My other vehicles are manual. To me that is automatic. Always in the correct gear. I generally dispise automatics but the Transit is much better than most.

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