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This is a Nexus 7 Android tablet. Google makes the "Android File Utility" app for OSX and it's about as bare-bones as you can get. Doesn't have any options for hidden files - or any options at all for that matter! It's been several years since I last tinkered with this tablet, as I recall there's something about the OSX driver for talking to Android devices that makes it less featureful than on Windows (such as requiring a special app to see the filesystem).

I was going to just SSH to the tablet and use the console commands to un-hide the directory but the rooting stuff says (basically) that an update requires I manually reinstall it. I tried figuring out how to do that again (can't remember a thing from the first time I did it!) then noticed I wasn't on the latest available version of Android (mine is 5.1, the Nexus 7 can go to 6.0) so tried to get the update - and got mired in so much vague information that I gave up! Just not that interested in OSes anymore...!

Anyway... Will mess with it more over the weekend and figure something out.
Oh [smack], I get the OSX reference, now. I just noticed today, that my new-ish phone with 6.0 has an "explore" utility under Settings/Storage, that shows the .torque folder. Not sure if it will move files as needed. With previous versions of Android, I do not recall any kind of "explore" functionality at all, short of picking a file manager from the Play store.

EDIT: Just found the same Settings/Storage "explore" functionality on the Amazon tablet, which has an older version of Android.

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I can see .torque in the "misc" section under Storage but selecting it only gives an option to delete it. Still doesn't show up in the utility on the imac.

I will probably try accessing the tablet from a Windows or Linux machine and see if they can see the directory. I've already plugged in the PIDs manually so not a big deal right now. I used to enjoy spending lots of time tinkering with OSes, knew the innards of Linux by heart and even custom-compiled my own kernels - now I just want the OS to get out of my way so I can use the apps on top!

I put the custom PIDs on the display screen and tried it out this morning, they work fine. Now I just need to figure out how to more fully use the program. First is to get Torque to actually shut down when i'm not in the car! Just about killed the battery on the tablet overnight, and so far when I open the tablet the notification screen says Torque is "idle, waiting for OBD adapter" even when I thought I'd gone in and shut down the app. (It isn't permanently connected to power in the van, my searches this morning have just turned up people configuring it to start/stop when external power is applied then goes away.)

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Search on the app store for a file explorer app that is more robust than what came standard.

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Encouraged by this thread, I picked up an Amazon $12 OBD dongle and installed the Torque Pro app on my Android phone.

Thanks to the detailed posts on PIDs from EddieZ, Joe, and others, I was able to customize my setup exactly as I wanted.

For under $20 ($4.95 app, $12 Amazon Panlong OBD Bluetooth reader) I am impressed by the useful functionality provided. There is so much more than just techie details for motorheads. A case in point is the real time tire pressure readings. The tire pressure information is so precise, gone are the days of fiddling with tire pressure gauges before a long trip. Now this information is at your fingertips for any trip, or any time you just want to know!

(note, the rear readings are for the front, my Ford dealer did not reset them at my last tire rotation. Eddie Z provides a workaround for that by swapping the PIDs, or you can just wait for the next rotation!

Another very useful item is the GPS needle compass. After years of looking at maps in North Up, this display is more intuitive to me than the simple N, S, etc letter display in most vehicles. The GPS altitude display is also very useful to me.



One note of caution, keeping the display to just 2 or three items at a time is advisable. I found the busier layouts demanded more eyes-off the road time than I was comfortable with.



The map function is really cool, showing you in earth mode where you have been recently and color displaying your speed.


There is so much I have yet to discover, and I do have some questions for anyone out there familiar with this setup.

1) is it necessary to unplug the dongle from the OBD port when not in use?

2) had anyone found an oil temp PID?

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1) is it necessary to unplug the dongle from the OBD port when not in use?

2) had anyone found an oil temp PID?

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My dongle has been plugged in for near 12 months. Hopefully, like mine, yours is trim enough to keep the cover over it.


My reading has been that there is no oil temp sensor in the engine, thus, no custom PID.
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Yes, the cover closes nicely over the mini OBD reader.


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Nifty, I hadn't found the mapping feature yet! I need to play with Torque some more. I want to try logging data for future reference.

I've wondered about how much draw the dongles have when off. My ScanGauge shuts itself off just a few seconds after the engine is turned off (at least the display goes out) but obviously it draws something since it wakes up when it sees the vehicle start. The BT dongle has an LED that remains on (maybe just flashes? can't remember....) even when the engine is off. I don't see a difference between engine-on and engine-off state so I do wonder if it even goes to sleep.

If I was driving it daily I wouldn't be so worried but since I have the company vehicle as well it can sit a few days during the week if I don't go anywhere after work.

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Nifty, I hadn't found the mapping feature yet! I need to play with Torque some more. I want to try logging data for future reference.

I've wondered about how much draw the dongles have when off. My ScanGauge shuts itself off just a few seconds after the engine is turned off (at least the display goes out) but obviously it draws something since it wakes up when it sees the vehicle start. The BT dongle has an LED that remains on (maybe just flashes? can't remember....) even when the engine is off. I don't see a difference between engine-on and engine-off state so I do wonder if it even goes to sleep.

If I was driving it daily I wouldn't be so worried but since I have the company vehicle as well it can sit a few days during the week if I don't go anywhere after work.
When at home, my droid phone kept getting flashing OBD notifications and would search for a Bluetooth connection to it endlessly. I messed with my settings until that no longer happens, not sure I remember what I did! I think I will leave the dongle plugged in unless parked for longer than a week.

Thanks again to all on this thread for getting me on to this great setup. It would have been handy to have last year when my check engine light came on over a weekend trip with no dealer open. We ended up heading home early. It turned out to be a crankcase pressure sensor which the OBD dongle and torque app would probably have displayed?

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Thanks again to all on this thread for getting me on to this great setup. It would have been handy to have last year when my check engine light came on over a weekend trip with no dealer open. We ended up heading home early. It turned out to be a crankcase pressure sensor which the OBD dongle and torque app would probably have displayed?

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I believe it will show anything that results from a check engine light. But... will not show things that result from other warnings. Like, when my backup sensor apparently needed service (it later resolved itself), I got a message on the console, but, no CEL, and nothing showing in Torque Pro.

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Thanks for the detailed write-up EddieZ! I was able to get your file in the correct folder, however when I select the ford_custom_pid (which is on the list) nothing shows up?? Screen is just blank. Any ideas?

Also, I noticed that the custom ford pids that comes with the app has the same equations, etc. As your custom list (for tire pressure)..however, I only get dashes and no pressure readings.
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