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I ended up getting a scan gauge.


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Wish my 2015 had a digital speed readout like your message center is showing. Is it that way on all HD or just the 2016 models?


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I ended up getting a scan gauge.

How do you like it in the transit? Is it worth the extra expense over the ultra?
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I ended up getting a scan gauge.
I have one in my Tacoma that I installed to keep an eye on transmission fluid temperature when towing. Works nicely and will move over to the Transit when it arrives.

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Transmission temp for the ScanGauge is the third one on their list for Ford CANSF. (Pretty sure that's right. Third or fourth! I know I had to try several before I got a valid reading.)

http://www.scangauge.com/support/x-g...cific-xgauges/

Don't know if their info is useful for the UltraGauge though...

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How do you like it in the transit? Is it worth the extra expense over the ultra?


I like it so far. It kind of threw me off at first when I would see 9999 for the MPG reading when coasting down hill. Also, I believe it calculates instantaneous MPG like so:

"Unfortunately, the SG doesn't calculate mpg by dividing miles travelled by gallons used. It assumes a 14.7:1 air/fuel ratio and uses the engine size in liters and rpms and distance to calculate mpg. "

It's smaller than UltraGauge and the cost difference was negligible when buying on Amazon.
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Transmission temp for the ScanGauge is the third one on their list for Ford CANSF. (Pretty sure that's right. Third or fourth! I know I had to try several before I got a valid reading.)

http://www.scangauge.com/support/x-g...cific-xgauges/

Don't know if their info is useful for the UltraGauge though...
Hey Joe, good show. I checked out the x-gauge codes at that link, then set about Googling for someone that had gotten the Ford transmission temp x-gauge codes working in Torque Pro.

I found some Taurus Sho guys on the Ecoboost Performance Forum that had taken it up, in 2014: http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum....ic,2118.0.html

User "ecoboostsho" worked out the 3rd temp listing that you had pointed to, with help of some other forum members. About half-way down that page, all of the information appears, to create a custom PID (gauge output) in Torque Pro. This follows the note about having edited, so people don't have to read the following 6 pages, where they had worked it out.

I'm copying the two most important parts, here, in case their forum somehow disappears:

"OBD2 Mode and PID" = 221E1C
"Equation" = (((signed(A)*256)+B)*(9/8)+320)/10

So, yes, I've got it working. So far, on a 70 degree day, doing some errands around town, my temp has topped out at 162 degrees.

Don't know if the same equation may work in UltraGauge, but, it's probably a step in the right direction, at least.

Apparently, it's very expensive to license the extended, fully refined codes from Ford. Some of the more expensive OBDII readers have the extended functions, and the license expense is reflected in their prices.

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Been messing more with Torque Pro. I've now seen the transmission temp up to 192, on an 82 degree day.

We were discussing, earlier, about why I wanted a gauge for turbo boost. I said I wanted to know more about how it worked, by way of knowing when it worked. We know the turbos are used in some innocuous acceleration cases. I began to wonder what percent of the time boost was being provided. I realized I could set up Torque Pro to log the readings from the boost gauge, say, twice a second. At the end of a drive, I turn off the logging, and have the zipped CSV log file either sent to my email account, or uploaded directly to my Google Drive (except the Drive uploaded failed 2 of 3 times I tried it).

Then, open the log in a spreadsheet, and write/duplicate simple formulas to identify and calculate percent of time the boost is above 0. On my drives the past two days, boost had been used 14.8 and 20 percent of the time. I had sort of expected 12-15%. Was surprised at the 20%. But, we do have a lot of mild rolling hills that tend to get some boost going.

I'll put up a pic of my phone screen, with Torque Pro gauges, for any that have not seen this type of setup. Gauges are all movable and customization, and, there are plenty more. I only keep a few showing because I have a small phone, and aging eyes. My phone fits perfectly in that little slot above-left of the shift lever.

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Awesome. This an iPhone app? And you have to buy an OBD dongle?


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Awesome. This an iPhone app? And you have to buy an OBD dongle?


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I have Android. I think there's an iPhone version. Check your app store.

Yes, you need a dongle. An Apple compatible dongle! I had linked, above, to the OBDII Bluetooth reader I bought on Amazon, for $12. That dongle -- one of MANY Chinese "clone" readers -- used to claim it worked with Apple. Now, they exclude Apple. Must be something about it... you might need to shop for a reader, possibly more expensive, that says will work with Apple.

Oh, I see a lot of discussion had been on a different thread: Boost gauge and Oil psi gauge anyone?

EDIT: I think the problem with Apple is the communication... like, Bluetooth doesn't work as it should, and/or communication has to take place over wifi, or something...

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