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Question about a 150 vs 250

I noticed that a 150 is $950 cheaper than a 250 an rated for 400 pounds less weight.

Other than the weight rating is there any difference between the 150 vs 250? Are all the available options the same?
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I studied this closely at the time. The Only difference I could find was the rear spring rating, and the gvwr number printed on the door sticker.

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Thanks, that's what I figured.

Paying $950 for 400 lbs and probably just an extra leaf is a big ripoff. I can get custom springs made for less than that.
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My T150, fully converted and loaded for touring with two peeps weighs 6600 lbs.

When loaded for touring and hauling to Arizona for the winter, it weighs 6856lbs down, and 7050lbs on the way back.

That leaves 1550lbs spare capacity in my worst case scenario.

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Actually, my worst case scenario would have my Honda CRF230 on a hitch rack. So add 270 for the bike and 100 for the rack. My spare capacity would drop to 1350 lbs.

1350 lbs used to be the total available capacity on a half ton pickup.

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Looking at a 2015 weight ratings spec the LWB, MR 150 has max axle loads of 4130lbs F and 5070lbs R. The 250 is 4130lbs F and 5510lbs R.

The Base weight of the 150, 250 and 350 are all 5174lbs.

So whatever additional springs they add weigh nothing, or Ford just doesn't care about being accurate on the empty vehicle weights.
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Looking at a 2015 weight ratings spec the LWB, MR 150 has max axle loads of 4130lbs F and 5070lbs R. The 250 is 4130lbs F and 5510lbs R.

The Base weight of the 150, 250 and 350 are all 5174lbs.

So whatever additional springs they add weigh nothing, or Ford just doesn't care about being accurate on the empty vehicle weights.
There are no additional springs in the 150-250-350 single rear wheel (don't know about dual). They are either tempered differently, or have a different steel makeup, or are marginally thicker.
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There are no additional springs in the 150-250-350 single rear wheel (don't know about dual). They are either tempered differently, or have a different steel makeup, or are marginally thicker.
Maybe they just change the door sticker?

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Years ago, about 1970, when I was working as a mechanic on Dodge & Plymouth I remember one of my co-workers converted his 1/2 ton Dodge Pickup to 3/4 ton because he had a slide-in camper and towed a dune buggy. I distinctly remember him saying to me that he could upgrade everything except the frame thickness. The 3/4 ton had a heavier frame!

Now, today, I hope that Ford is not charging us $950 just for a slightly thicker leaf spring. I would hope that maybe the uni-body is beefed up a little where necessary. I wish someone from Ford would speak up and answer this question.

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Years ago, about 1970, when I was working as a mechanic on Dodge & Plymouth I remember one of my co-workers converted his 1/2 ton Dodge Pickup to 3/4 ton because he had a slide-in camper and towed a dune buggy. I distinctly remember him saying to me that he could upgrade everything except the frame thickness. The 3/4 ton had a heavier frame!

Now, today, I hope that Ford is not charging us $950 just for a slightly thicker leaf spring.
I'm pretty sure they are.

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