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Bed/bench seat build begins..

Finished with the subfloor and am now starting to frame out the bed/seating area. I decided to build this on a platform above the wheel wells and will install some drawers for storage below.

This will be bench seats that will utilize removable back rests that will go in the middle to make bed platform. I'm not quit sure how I will "secure" the back boards while in the seating position, but am considering routing a groove in the seat that the back boards can sit in so as not to move around. The one issue with this is figuring out how to do the foam mattress sections.

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I did something similar in my econoline camper build and ended up using mirror hangers:

https://www.amazon.com/Hangman-Produ...ers+heavy+duty

cut 3" sections and applied to backrest backboard at the ends and to the van walls...trimmed ledgers at the ends to allow them to sit flush.

To keep my cushion construction simple I hung the backs high enough so the just rested on the base cushion...

simple but it worked
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I did something similar in my econoline camper build and ended up using mirror hangers:

https://www.amazon.com/Hangman-Produ...ers+heavy+duty

cut 3" sections and applied to backrest backboard at the ends and to the van walls...trimmed ledgers at the ends to allow them to sit flush.

To keep my cushion construction simple I hung the backs high enough so the just rested on the base cushion...

simple but it worked


Great idea..I like it! Although I may have to figure out another way to make backrest sit flush since I will be using both (stacked on top of one another) for the middle of the bed support. I guess I could cut out slots in one of the backboards to allow the hangers to 'recess' into, then just have the hangers on the other backboard on sticking down while using as bed support.
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I finally figured out how I am going to frame the wall to include more head room since we will be sleeping east-west. I used 1/2 plywood and made a cutout on both sides. I still have to finish the trim on sides and top, but just plan on gluing and nailing 1/2 ply to "box" it out. I will then just but a thinner piece of wood and cover with padding/fabric that will fit snuggly into the inset. Waiting in some plusnuts to arrive so I can attach the plywood to the van. Also I plan on putting a layer of reflectix between van and wood. Any suggestions? Thoughts?

The next step will be building drawers for the storage under where the bed/bench platform will be. I will have 2 "L" shaped drawers (2 ft. by 4.5 ft. on long side/33" on shorter side) that will be accessed from the back, and one (24" wide by 19" deep) that will be accessed from inside. Any drawer slides that you'd suggestions? Any to avoid? It seems as though folks like the k&v slides, but darn they seem pricey!! I also don't like the 3/4 inch width of them. Any other suggestions? Also, how do folks keep drawers closed?

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I finally figured out how I am going to frame the wall to include more head room since we will be sleeping east-west. I used 1/2 plywood and made a cutout on both sides. I still have to finish the trim on sides and top, but just plan on gluing and nailing 1/2 ply to "box" it out. I will then just but a thinner piece of wood and cover with padding/fabric that will fit snuggly into the inset. Waiting in some plusnuts to arrive so I can attach the plywood to the van. Also I plan on putting a layer of reflectix between van and wood. Any suggestions? Thoughts?

The next step will be building drawers for the storage under where the bed/bench platform will be. I will have 2 "L" shaped drawers (2 ft. by 4.5 ft. on long side/33" on shorter side) that will be accessed from the back, and one (24" wide by 19" deep) that will be accessed from inside. Any drawer slides that you'd suggestions? Any to avoid? It seems as though folks like the k&v slides, but darn they seem pricey!! I also don't like the 3/4 inch width of them. Any other suggestions? Also, how do folks keep drawers closed?

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Was drawing up a similar plan; how does headroom on top of the benches feel when sitting?

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Was drawing up a similar plan; how does headroom on top of the benches feel when sitting?

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There is plenty of headroom above...not an issue at all. I decided to go this route so to have storage underneath rather than upper cabinets. I did end up changing how far down the plywood comes so that the back of our head doesn't hit at the corner. The back rests will end up slightly higher than the edge, so with some "soft" finish on the plywood it should be comfy.

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Engineering axiom: Grams make ounces, ounces make pounds, and pounds cause problems. "Lighten up!". Try using a hole saw. Or a plunge router using guide templates. Laminate where possible. The best "RV" interiors I ever saw came out of Santa Cruz Yachts. "Fast is fun"! Very light weight, efficient and very pleasing to the eye. The original Boeing 747-100 was over-built. The Boeing model 200 was 20,000 pounds lighter than the original. Increased efficiency and safety. Consider USAF aircraft restraint limits: 9.0, 2.0, 1.5. Civilian aircraft seats are/were 16 G.
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Engineering axiom: Grams make ounces, ounces make pounds, and pounds cause problems. "Lighten up!". Try using a hole saw. Or a plunge router using guide templates. Laminate where possible. The best "RV" interiors I ever saw came out of Santa Cruz Yachts. "Fast is fun"! Very light weight, efficient and very pleasing to the eye. The original Boeing 747-100 was over-built. The Boeing model 200 was 20,000 pounds lighter than the original. Increased efficiency and safety. Consider USAF aircraft restraint limits: 9.0, 2.0, 1.5. Civilian aircraft seats are/were 16 G.
Yeah, all of this framing is adding up. I am considering alternative for the 2x12s I currently have for the drawers/bed platform support. Definitely the heaviest part. What are you referring to regarding using a hole saw for?



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When your 2 x 12's dry they will probably "cup", and that would cause problems with drawer guides. You can use lighter material and still plenty of strength.

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