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Ground clearance on a Transit?

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I've been pondering for months what kind of van platform that I want to purchase for a camper build out. I am about down to the Sprinter and the Transit. I thought about 4x4's, however decided that clearance is a much more important need. So with that said, the Sprinter wins. However, with the maintenance costs (post 2008 emission system issues) of the Sprinter, I am leaning towards a Sprinter. So what can be done to increase the clearance on Transits?


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Quigley or Quadvan 4x4 adds 2 inches. Van compass lift adds 2 inches. Bigger tires can add 2 inches.

Some will say the suspension lift does not add clearance because the diff is the same height. However the diff is rarely the issue if you know how to drive it and you keep the wheels on the high spots. Suspension lift does improve approach, departure and breakover angles.

How much higher is the stock Sprinter and how did you determine that? I thought that they were not much different.

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The rear shock mounts on the Transit are shockingly low. I'd like to see some aftermarket kit that gets those at least 7-8" off the ground. Taller tires only increase the clearance 1/2 of their height difference; because radius and diameter are two different things. A tire that gives 2" more ground clearance is going to be 4" taller than stock, and I don't think that's possible without serious modification by a body shop to cut away parts of all the wheel wells and weld in new supports. The Transit is Unibody, so this is NOT a good idea. Even with a body lift you're still not going to be able to go very big without body modification.

I was very happy with the clearance on my 03 Sprinter, And I think other than the shock mounts the Transit is only 2" lower on most of the important parts.

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The rear shock mounts on the Transit are shockingly low.
That worries me too. I have a Quigley and was hoping they would have done something about it; but no luck there.
I wasn't planning anything too radical with the van anyway, but it is something I'll be thinking and worrying about if I'm on a trail.

I haven't tested it on anything rough yet. Has anybody had trouble with this on rough 4WD roads?
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The rear shock mounts on the Transit are shockingly low. I'd like to see some aftermarket kit that gets those at least 7-8" off the ground. Taller tires only increase the clearance 1/2 of their height difference; because radius and diameter are two different things. A tire that gives 2" more ground clearance is going to be 4" taller than stock, and I don't think that's possible without serious modification by a body shop to cut away parts of all the wheel wells and weld in new supports. The Transit is Unibody, so this is NOT a good idea. Even with a body lift you're still not going to be able to go very big without body modification.

I was very happy with the clearance on my 03 Sprinter, And I think other than the shock mounts the Transit is only 2" lower on most of the important parts.
235/85R16 gives 1.9 inches lift. That size just fits, minor trimming, pinch weld bashing may be recommended. Chain clearance may be an issue without further work. My van comes in two weeks...I'll post my results. I'm not averse to minor cutting and welding.

As for the shock mounts: good wheel placement will be crucial.

This will never be a rock crawler, but I think with good driving, it will go a surprising number of places. We shall see.
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It seems that the mounts could be rewelded to the top of the axle pretty easily.
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Quigley or Quadvan 4x4 adds 2 inches. Van compass lift adds 2 inches. Bigger tires can add 2 inches.

Some will say the suspension lift does not add clearance because the diff is the same height. However the diff is rarely the issue if you know how to drive it and you keep the wheels on the high spots. Suspension lift does improve approach, departure and breakover angles.

How much higher is the stock Sprinter and how did you determine that? I thought that they were not much different.

Thanks! So roughly how much is it to do a conversion to 4x4 on a Transit? Although, it sounds like this may not improve the low rear shock mounts.
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Thanks! So roughly how much is it to do a conversion to 4x4 on a Transit? Although, it sounds like this may not improve the low rear shock mounts.
12-13 k$, see: http://www.quigley4x4.com/Quigley-Pr...ans/4x4-Models
Quadvan in Oregon is about the same price, but a much smaller shop, with a longer wait time. Quigley still has a wait, though. Mine was delivered to Quigley 10/14 and 4x4 install completed 12/22. If you talk to them they will tell you that the wait is much longer -- I was told March 2017. But they seem to get it done much faster. I think that this is experience of others as well.

There are both Quadvan and Quigley owners on the forum and some good info, if you search. One Quadvan owner has had some real issues, there is a thread on it. I've not heard of any problems from the Quigleys yet, but I don't know how much people are using them. I went with Quigley because I felt more comfortable buy from a larger company that was more able to provide long-term support. I'm not sure what would happen to Quadvan support if the owner got hit by a bus tomorrow.

I think it's too early to say which mod is superior from a technical perspective. In any case, that discussion probably belongs in it's own thread.
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The ground clearance issue is a big one with the vans for me. I would really like to have to room of an EB but the 4 foot of overhang behind the rear wheels is huge. There are lots of gravel road with dips that this could be a problem even with a 3 or 4 inch lift kit. Sprinter got around this problem by going with 170 inch wheel base. Am I thinking that this is a bigger issue than it really is?
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Wow, I didn't think 4" taller tires would fit, given what other people have posted, and their photos of tires only 2" taller having less than a finger's width of space at points in the wheel wells!

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