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Wanting to add seats in cargo van

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I have noticed that companies like Outside Van offer custom mounted bench seat brackets for Sprinters but I am wondering what people are doing for Transits? I have a cargo van that I would not mind adding some seat brackets for the option of maybe having a third and fourth passenger in the van and then removing the seat when not in use.

Just wondering what other's have done who have found myself in a similar situation. Thanks in advanced.
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One of the members, GreenMotoVan or something, had a great solution. He used flanged L-track and mounted the factory seat brackets to it. Transit seats can be found pretty cheap, since a lot of van conversion and mobility companies take them out and just toss them and the brackets.

Mounting the factory brackets to a cargo can be problematic and they stick up above the floor. Mounting the brackets to flush L-track that sits between the floor ribs perfectly allows the seat to be removed, and then a couple bolts removes the bracket leaving a flat cargo floor, WITH L-track tie-down capabilities! They went full length with the L-track, but the 100" piece can be cut in half to make two sections. The middle seat support on the bench seat is overkill, there is a 3" diameter steel tube spanning the width, so it can be removed with a wrench to make the seat slightly more mobile (it weighs 200lbs or more). Flanged L-track can be found online, I think I spent $60-70 for the track, plastic ends, and bolts; shipped. Flanged allows the flooring to be tucked under so you don't have to be as precise with the cuts in the flooring. And it really IS flat, it fits perfectly.

I took the advice and did this, I also cut the seat brackets shorter to removing tripping hazard (the long brackets hold the set in back as well on the passenger vans):
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That looks great! That is exactly what I am looking to do. I am wondering if you are intending to keep the original floor or are you going to put in a different style floor? We are weighing the options of putting in a different style but not totally committed to the idea quite yet.

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Went with OEM seats out of a 8 passenger. Two rows both are three seaters.

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I went with a Flip up seat from Freedman seating. Don't have to wonder where to put it when I don't need it, and always have it with me when needed.

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I installed Sienna seats in my van on OEM tracks. The sky is the limit as far as fitting seats in the van, it just takes a little doing. J track in the floor is a pretty common solution, allows for easy moving and removing.

Stock Transit seats are widely available, anything bigger than a 2 seat is pretty heavy to move solo though.
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Probably not what you had in mind, but I'm installing a VW bus-style folding couch/bed. It's OK for giving folks the occasional ride and makes a nice camper couch as well as being part of a wide bed, but you might not want to sit on it for a cross-country trip. I got the frame at 2.cip1.com
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The fold down jump seats and benches are great for the occasional use, but I don't think they're very safe in a crash. I've never been in a wreck in 40 years of driving, so I usually overlook that aspect until someone brings it up.

The passenger vans have a thicker floor on top of the metal ribs, so the factory mounts don't stick up like they would if just bolted to a cargo floor. I think it's a 2" difference, but I could be wrong. The rubber cargo mat surface is .25-.375 above the top of the ribs, so even a thin click-lock laminate floor directly on top of the ribs would be about the same or thicker. Most people like to add a bit of insulation under their floors and level the ribs with 1/2" strips of extra insulation, so it would be easy to fit the factory brackets like the passenger vans. The plastic step cover would need to be adjusted, or buy a passenger one.

If installing a wood floor on top of the ribs, you can pretty much use any seat system you like; scavenge something from a minivan in a wrecking yard or craigslist. I wanted it to be matchy-matchy so went with the factory bench, which I'll rarely take out of the van. If getting some other seats, it is imperative that you get some with integrated seatbelts, otherwise you have a whole different set of problems trying to mount them to the van walls.

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That looks great! That is exactly what I am looking to do. I am wondering if you are intending to keep the original floor or are you going to put in a different style floor? We are weighing the options of putting in a different style but not totally committed to the idea quite yet.
You have an HR, so you wouldn't have any height issues by adding a floor. I want to keep as much height as possible because I have a MR, and I'll even do a ceiling that is recessed between the ribs.

Orton has an HR, and has chronicled all his modifications.

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The fold down jump seats and benches are great for the occasional use, but I don't think they're very safe in a crash. I've never been in a wreck in 40 years of driving, so I usually overlook that aspect until someone brings it up.
I've been thinking about this since I'm installing a folding bench. It seems to me that if the seat is not near a sidewall that gets hit then the seat belt is the main safety factor. So long as you stay in the seat during a crash and your head doesn't hit anything in front of you, I imagine you'd be reasonably safe. So my question is this: If I mount belts with 2-1/2" washers under the metal floor, will they tear out in a crash?

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