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Which raises another question I hadn't consider before. On the new Transit, if you install a kitchen cabinet at standard counter elevation, will it be higher than the bottom of factory windows?
A standard height counter will be 7 or 8 inches higher than the window bottom. I've got a std hgt counter and finished walls. I'm looking down the outside of the van, while viewing counter, to make the estimate.

... more like 5 inches, after considering the black "mask" on the windows.

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I went with a cargo van mostly because I was able to order all the options that I wanted. HD alternator, tow package, up fitter switches etc....
I did order it with windows all around. For me it was a combination of aesthetics and functionality. I really like how from the outside it looks just like any passenger van. Easy to park in almost any hotel parking lot overnight with out getting a second look. For the inside I covered all the windows with reflectix covered over with some material so it doesn't look so industrial inside the van. I leave the shades on most of the time but when wild camping or sleeping somewhere secluded with amazing views it only takes a few moments to pull the shades off and wake up to some stunning views. So it gives me the best of both worlds. I can definitely see arguments for both builds but it comes down to how you will use it and what you like. I know that I will eventually just build over the window behind the drivers seat because that's where I plan to install my shower/bath. As far as all around windows go I do wonder how it will affect me heat wise. But with the shades on it makes a huge difference so far. Plus if it gets too hot I'll be looking for a shady spot to park under until the temps come down. Here is a pic of the shades installed.
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I went with a cargo van mostly because I was able to order all the options that I wanted. HD alternator, tow package, up fitter switches etc....
I did order it with windows all around. For me it was a combination of aesthetics and functionality. I really like how from the outside it looks just like any passenger van. Easy to park in almost any hotel parking lot overnight with out getting a second look. For the inside I covered all the windows with reflectix covered over with some material so it doesn't look so industrial inside the van. I leave the shades on most of the time but when wild camping or sleeping somewhere secluded with amazing views it only takes a few moments to pull the shades off and wake up to some stunning views. So it gives me the best of both worlds. I can definitely see arguments for both builds but it comes down to how you will use it and what you like. I know that I will eventually just build over the window behind the drivers seat because that's where I plan to install my shower/bath. As far as all around windows go I do wonder how it will affect me heat wise. But with the shades on it makes a huge difference so far. Plus if it gets too hot I'll be looking for a shady spot to park under until the temps come down. Here is a pic of the shades installed.
I also use Reflectix on my window van. Did you just spray glue the fabric to the Reflectix? What kind of fabric?
I also love have windows all around. It's so nice to have a 360 degree view yet so easy to cover up with the Reflectix panels and black out curtains. Best of both worlds if your not covering the whole thing in cabinets.
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I used reflectix on all the windows. This is one of those projects that I thought would be super easy but then became super time consuming. I didn't like how with the reflectix showed from the outside even with tinted windows. So I spray painted them matte black so they can't be seen from the outside. For the inside part I was planning to just sew fabric to the reflectix but ran into problems sewing through such thick material. This might not be a problem for others but I just learned to sew (thank's you tube) the morning I started this project. My next problem was that just using the black fabric I had I again was able to see the reflectix through it. Maybe a thicker fabric would have solved this issue. So what I ended up doing it sewing together two pieces of fabric. One piece is black out curtain (it's white by the way, not black) and the other piece is my fabric I wanted to be seen from inside. With the two pieces together I then used 3M 90 adhesive spray to attache the fabric to the reflectix. The back windows don't really have the same space to slide the reflectix in like the other windows. Although there are tabs you could cut to fit them in. Instead when I was sewing my two pieces of fabric together I just made the fabric a little bigger to fit over the windows and sewed magnets into the fabric. If it wasn't such a pain in the ass to sew the magnets in. And if the magnets weren't so expensive I would have done all the windows this way. I really never intended to do so much work but I am very happy with the results. I love how they look. They are super easy to put in and take out. It gives total privacy at night even with all lights on inside. Kinda a long reply. Hope this gives you a good idea on how I did it. I keep meaning to make a full post with all pictures on how I did it. That should come soon.
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Another way to skin the same cat is with black Corex (4mm corrugated plastic). I cut pieces to fit each of my windows out of 4'x 8' sheets and then taped small but strong disk magnets around the boarder using black 3M cloth adhesive tape (6910). Not elegant looking but very functional, easy to do and inexpensive. Totally blacked out from the outside and easy to put on and off.

Oh yeah, I store them flat against the ceiling where they totally out of the way.
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Can you expand on removing the wagon floor? I have a 10 seat model, I removed the first 2-seat and the back 3-seat. Now I would like to move the second 2-seat forward 8 - 12 inches. In the pictures it appears that the seat floor sockets are on some sort of rail. can these rails be moved?

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I choose the 15 passangers xlt 350.we removed the 4 seats in the back opening a large area for cago and a full Thedford toilet with casette.We remove the front 3 seats and the second row 2 seats.We reverse the 2 seats of the back (looking aft) and fit them in the track of the 3 front seats.

We seats now 8 and the kids love it.The wife love the thedford toilets.
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Donross from your post it sounds like you were able to mount the seats backwards using the original seat mounts. Is this correct or did you also change the seat mounts? Thanks

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One suggestion,, I was going to go with SO cord for elec branch circuit, but after pricing, I found econo extension cords 16 gauge for 1/3 cost, just cut the plug ends off and go...so what if it's orange. I'll do same wth 14 gage here needed.
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One piece is black out curtain (it's white by the way, not black) and the other piece is my fabric

Is the black out fabric visible from outside?
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